[–]robe_ac Spain -> Sweden 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]SpinatJokker Denmark 32 points33 points34 points 2 years ago (16 children), Hypothetically there is no language barrier, [–]Deadwolf_YT France[S] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (14 children), I still have few years to graduate so i can learn Danish if need to . How do you say "the day before yesterday" in your native language? You can also follow Imke on Twitter. Non EU, https://mcc.ca/services/repository/educational-credential-assessment/, https://mcc.ca/services/source-verification/, https://mcc.ca/services/source-verification/medical-credentials/, http://www.mecd.gob.es/educacion-mecd/areas-educacion/universidades/educacion-superior-universitaria/titulos/homologacion-titulos/homologacion-titulos-universitarios.html. https://mcc.ca/services/source-verification/, Acceptable medical credentials: Just which country would let you practice after few tests and not have to go through residency again, [–]Klamydiagrammi 35 points36 points37 points 2 years ago (9 children), Not Finland at least. That's true as well. Within the EU nationals category, those from the EU15 account for the majority and within the non-EU nationals category, this is South Asia (Figure 7). Find out about the procedure for the entry visa process.. What opportunities does a work visa offer? The approval authority will usually also require certified copies of the original documents. [–]ruber_r Czechia 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Let's say my family doctor is a migrant who studied medicine abroad (she used to be a specialist in her country) and it took her 5-6 years to get her degree validated and to get her language skills on point to work in Belgium as a family doctor. I am interested in passing b2 German in a few months, then going in Austria, continuing my specialization there. Recognition of professional qualifications under Directive 2005/36/EC of 7 September 2005, Online service to check EU qualifications in the health sector and other regulated professions, (Notes on obtaining a temporary professional permit without a license to practice medicine, with links, in German). Resident doctors can earn gross salaries between 4400 and 5600 € /month,depending on experience, to which significant amount of money is added for the services. No, health professions require a bit more of a hassle to get recognized in other countries. I was assuming OP was going to go study there and/or figure out what has to happen to get the license validated. [–]jenana__ Belgium 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (3 children). It is part of the Schengen Area and since 1999 a member of the Eurozone. At the same time, doctors from abroad may be attracted to Germany as a place to complete their specialist training or further their knowledge, or may simply see better opportunities for work and lifestyle there. According to the OECD, Germany’s immigrant workforce stands at 36.5 million people – one of the highest in the world.The majority of these workers come from other EU countries. As an assistant doctor, one learns the diagnostics and methods of his specialty. Let's say as a Belgian nurse it's easier to work in a Dutch hospital than as a African doctor, but it's pretty complicated to get any medical degrees (and permission to work in the medical field) validated abroad. Rendered by PID 17124 on r2-app-016821a28fce65ed4 at 2021-01-06 12:48:49.144475+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: US. [–]colako Spain 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). Lots of Moroccan medical students go to France and Germany, so there. [–]LupineChemist -> 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (6 children). Before you can do that, you need to submit your credentials for a step one verification: The highest overall numbers of practising physicians were recorded in the largest EU Member States: Germany (357 000, equivalent to 21.1 % of the EU-27 total), followed at some distance by Italy (240 000), France (212 000) and Spain (188 000). You need c1 to work as doctor in most countries. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Got a question for a European, about Europe or anything Europe related? I think in the case of the Spanish residency program, you can get in with a student visa, so it makes it easier to stay in the country once you are already in. You'll have to redo a big part of your training. Non EUWork (self.AskEurope), submitted 2 years ago * by Deadwolf_YT France. Please note that neither Imke nor Jayne has a commercial relationship with any of the organisations mentioned above. [–]a_bright_knight Serbia 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (1 child). I'm glad you can't come here with qualifications from just any country and practice medicine. A new study says Germany is an exception with its free higher education. No racism, discrimination, bigotry, dehumanisation or endorsement of violence. Non EU. [–]eshwilk Poland 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–]Fatherhenk Netherlands 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children), I'm a med student in the Netherlands. A lot of doctors are dreaming of specialisation and training in the best German hospitals, which are famous all over the world. Demographic changes mean that a shortage of German doctors is looming, especially among general practitioners, paediatricians and other specialists in rural areas. The Marburger Bund, which represents the interests of doctors in Germany, has published a list (in German) of the requirements for German language skills for non-German-speaking doctors in the various Federal States. This professional permit is limited to a particular time and place. So basically any country with a medical school and a governing body has the necessary set up - which is going to be everyone except microstates. No questions similar to those asked already during the last 10 days. If you are a citizen of a country outside the EU/EEA and you want to study or work in Sweden, you will need a study or work permit. So it is evidently also for non-citizens going through the immigration process. If you want to treat patients in another state, you will need to register with the relevant State Medical Chamber (‘Landesärztekammer’). The official onus is on the candidates to do everything by themselves, pretty much. However, the medical profession in Germany is strictly regulated and there are many conditions for international doctors to meet before they can work here. The current regulations for Finland can be found here. Can somebody explain the new VAT EU system to be implemented in July in a very simple way? I've seen that you think that, if you get permanent residency/ citizenship in one of the European countries, you would be able to practice medicine around EU. [–]colako Spain 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (8 children). Its not like you can use Spanish in Portugal. The database contains details of translators for various languages and is available in English. After residency, Spain pays doctors between €2200 and €3000 depending on the speciality. No way, that's not gonna happen. This applies to both EU citizens and non-EU citizens. That is not true- it is based on where you did your degree. Which European country is the most welcoming for foreign-trained doctors? [–]jenana__ Belgium 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). Hypothetically there is no language barrier. You’ll have to diligently ask around. EU Health Staff Ltd recruit EU doctors to work in Scandinavia & Germany. by Jayne Fox | Aug 25, 2015 | Medical profession in Germany. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Jayne Fox BSc MITI is a German-English medical translator and editor. This follows the UK’s withdrawal from the European Union. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 17124 on r2-app-016821a28fce65ed4 at 2021-01-06 12:48:49.144475+00:00 running 15b6a67 country code: US. Web design by Tanya Quintieri | ©2015-2016 Jayne Fox & Imke Brodersen | Contact | Legal Information | Privacy Policy. Apply to Valvira for recognition of your qualification using the form provided. The Translation Clinic is an exploration of medical translation and writing in English and German, by medical translators Imke Brodersen and Jayne Fox. We are experiencing lack of doctors right now but on the other hand you can make 3x as much in Germany. Dial 116117 for a non-emergency doctor on call. Source: Mum is MD from Ukraine and got her degree there. There is no language barrier there, but you could use the same proceeding. [–]truh Austria 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). What is your favourite European language? I've been to a fair share of hospitals in developing countries and have seen some crazy stuff. The tests are given in Finnish or Swedish and must be completed in the order given above. I don't even know if foreign degrees are accepted across Europe for medicine, so yeah, I'd assume not. It is an easier option to Europe. [–]Kronephon->-> 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children). If i get a license in spain then i could just apply to work in let's say Portugal without having to take language exams there? After 3-4 years you're good to go. Doubt it. He is currently a busboy in a hotel, [–]injerabich Sweden 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (6 children). Figure 7: Most non-British national doctors had either a South Asia or EU15 nationality Let people express their opinions; We're not only here to answer questions, but also to encourage healthy discussions. Poland has a shortage of medical personnel, I've seen many doctors from places like India or Middle East. Like Swiss French, or Frisian German, or similar situations. Select a flair (flag) by clicking the flair edit button above. A lot of countries will either have reciprocal arrangements with countries that are considered of equally good status, or, alternatively, have an exam set by the country's governing body to ascertain which doctors are up to scratch. Some people get student visas once they register in schools that prepare for the MIR test. Your previous licence is usually recognised in these cases. Then, you need to prove you have your Spanish language competency, meaning you will need a B2 level in Spanish, through the DELE exam. This quota system applies to nationals of all EU countries, Norway and Iceland. [–]icatsouki Tunisia -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children), Late as fuck answer but you have no idea what you're talking about so you can drop the condescending shit, [–]tetroxid Switzerland 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]flagada7:flag-05: Bavaria 18 points19 points20 points 2 years ago (2 children). Contact the Geothe Institute for the language course B2 (Independent language use) and language course C1 (Proficiency). Although these countries are not members of the EU, their nationals can work in the EU on the same footing as EU nationals, since they belong to the European Economic Area. Is it true Europeans go to a lot of Balls? If he wants Europe he’ll have to work for it. provided that you have the qualifications from your home country, all you need to do is complete a number of assessments. Medical degrees from EU and certain other countries are recognised in line with the Bologna criteria. The internship should last at least six months, but Valvira can specify both the length and the content of your internship as necessary. No. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Although unemployment in Germany is lower than in past years, competition for certain jobs may be tough and it may be difficult to get permission to work in certain circumstances. No offense to your coworker and for all we know he might really be a good doctor but education isn't the same in places like Tanzania as it is here in Western Europe. During last 15 months 340 international doctors have begun residency in Germany by means of this program. Doctors then need to arrange for their medical diplomas to be recognised. Physicians who have completed their medical training outside of the European Union and EEA may still practice medicine in Germany, but have some hoops to jump through to get the Approbation. How popular are board games in your country? If a work contract has a shorter duration, a residence permit shall be issued for the duration of the contract. The approval authority uses the Anabin qualification database in the approval process. Many facilities prefer to hire EU doctors as there are fewer restrictions. You need to pay to get a specific official language certificate which means paying for courses to train you to pass the exam, you need to pay to translate your medical licence and supporting documentation into Finnish, you probably need to pay to sit the exams as well. Everything about the degree is still operated by state. In Belgium you can't practice medicine based on an african degree. Imke Brodersen has over 20 years of experience as a translator from English and Spanish into German, focusing on medicine, literature and the translation of official documents. I hear people complain about stuff like that often. After completing their tertiary education, junior doctors in training are entitled to an EU Blue Card, making it easier to obtain a residence permit for people in occupations that have a shortage of applicants. The first step is to provide evidence of oral and written language skills at level B2 or C1 of the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages. Go where your fellow countrymen are going. [–]Deadwolf_YT France[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. To do it in Canada, you need to your credentials evaluated by the Medical Council of Canada: After obtaining their licence to practice medicine, doctors must register with their State Medical Chamber (‘Landesärztekammer’). 7 thoughts on “ 6 Steps to get a practice license in Sweden for a non-EU medical doctor ” Jayantha wijeratne. Germany was a founding member of the European Community in 1957, which became the EU in 1993. Workers from Croatiamay face temporary restrictions on working in Liechtenstein. Keep in mind though that our language is very difficult and foreigners could be met with distrust and hostility by some. [–]VladVV 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children), I don't even know if foreign degrees are accepted across Europe for medicine. But as the medical profession is one of the regulated fields, first you have to make sure that your Medical Diploma is recognizable. There are degrees in English but they still need to learn Polish because they're practicing at Polish hospitals and clinics. The Netherlands currently has an oversupply of both junior doctors and specialists in all fields except for insurance medicine, occupational health, and elderly care. You can request a list of the required documents from the approval authority. https://legitimation.socialstyrelsen.se/en/educated-outside-eu-and-eea, [–]Lyress in -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (4 children). A licence to practice medicine is only granted for a particular state, rather than for the whole of Germany. What are some true romantic stories involving royalty and the common folk? edit: it looks like Finland have similar requirements (language certificate in Finnish or Swedish, as well as three different exams in Finnish or Swedish on both medicine and the Finnish healthcare system) but they also require 6 months volunteer internship in a hospital as well... [–]shoots_and_leaves -> -> 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (2 children). German - only with older people. Now the Brexit transition period has ended, the registration process for some doctors with non-UK qualifications has changed. The thing that stands out to me as the biggest obstacle is not the size of Finland and its immigrant population, but the cost. The Civil Service Language Proficiency Test must be passed with a level of Satisfactory or higher in all subject areas. Head over to Google+ or Twitter to continue the conversation! Gaining German language skills is an important part of working in Germany. Netherlands might be easier to get a job since it's all private rather than have to get hired by the state with the extra bureaucracy. Are socks & sandals a thing in your country? Your beat bet is to stick with a country with a language you already know and possibly try to study there as well. [–]Deadwolf_YT France[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), So france/Germany/Austria/Uk are my best bet. Usually, with this sort of stuff there is some correspondence between the relevant countries. This includes factors such as the quality of life for a doctor and chances of getting into a decent residency program. By Imke Brodersen, English-German medical translator. Translated by Jayne Fox, German-English medical translator and editor. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this article. Posts from accounts younger than a month old are manually approved to avoid brigading and spam. Isn't OP's main problem that while it's certainly possible to validate your degree in many EU countries, you still have to have a valid reason for permanent residence like a job offer, and obtaining a job offer while being a foreigner immediately cuts off like 99% of the job market because nobody wants to go through the hassle? Here is an outline of the steps that non-German doctors need to follow in order to work in German hospitals, clinics and medical practices. a. Jobs that doctors typically get in Germany are in hospital, in their own medical practice or as an employee within big group practices. Imagine if somebody died and their relatives that it was because he was not trained properly in Europe. I can think of plenty of reasons why I would rather go theough the hoops of working Europe rather than Dubai, [–]newcount22 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). 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