Join the discussion today. Its hardy & productive but late & poor to medium quality overall.” I’m wondering if the poor to medium quality problem isn’t so much genetics as it is that the figs are late? Best to grow it out and see how you like it. In the United States the least known of the BTs are the European BTs. Figs can be left in the ground unprotected, but a particularly vicious cold snap may kill young trees. How does that fit in the sceme of things. For varieties like Brown Turkey, Chicago Hardy, Celeste, and LSU Purple, the color will change from green to brown or purple as the fruit ripens. I had to keep it from ripening main crop figs and force vigorous growth and prune for brebas. I found with LaRadek that if I allowed it to ripen main crop figs, it did not give a heavy breba crop. This is a work in progress. Heavy producer: Large: Excellent tree ripened quality: Celeste: Brown to violet with pink pulp: One crop: Small pear-shaped with long stock: Widely grown in south. There is. Taste is good, very sweet. It is hardy to 0 degrees, but will freeze back to the ground in colder temperatures. Also, its still my only fruiting tree, so that also makes it a valued tree. This gallery has 3 photos. This didn’t work very well with most of these varieties. If all you have are brown turkeys and you want dessert, drizzle them with honey and run them under the broiler for a moment until the sizzle and bubble, or use them to make fig bread . Celeste is almost as widely grown as Brown Turkey. I have Figs- brown turkey, celeste, and chicago hardy - gallon sized plants 15 each and larger 25 eachHappy to show gardens and help educate how. (062) Brown Turkey is another variety that can be planted in this area. All times are GMT-5. Brown turkey fig can reach heights of 20 feet or more, but the tree responds well to pruning, so there’s no need to let it get so large. The best varieties for Florida are Celeste, brown turkey, Green Ischia, and Jelly. “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. If no brebas, back to the scrap heap. All Rights Reserved. A European nursery had protected a variety called Bayernfeige Violetta. Figs are dark purplish brown, with sweet red pulp. Figs are native to areas with long growing seasons and hot summers. Copyright Leaf Group Ltd. // Leaf Group Lifestyle. Condit’s text seems tp explain this uncharacteristic lapse. An important different is the Celeste has a "closed" eye, protecting it from insect spoiling. When EBT breba its all you know, than its the best fig there is. Are these trees indoors or protected? Zone 5 low temperatures average around -15 degrees, which will kill these plants to the ground. That didn’t make sense with the main crop figs. Trees that regularly freeze to the ground will go on to produce abundant fruit during the growing season. A lot of people seem consider Southern Brown Turkey a strain of Celeste. I have been taking off figs that looked like they were close to ripening on other trees. The least affected by virus are Sweet George and LaRadek. That’s why I’m trying to re-program the EBTs to produce brebas. Vern's BT is its own thing - not really a 'Brown Turkey' in the sense that it isn't part of any of the established groups. "The eye of mature Turkey figs is somewhat open while Celeste is closed and is therefore a better keeper - resisting souring better." Figs are native to areas with long growing seasons and hot summers. When I see photos of Celeste the fruit is usually amber in color. Cheers! Supposedly zone 8a, but my severe frost pocket makes it more like 7a. As for the rest – I have to agree that I don’t see a lot of it. Just like another type. Although they display a surprising amount of cold tolerance, harsh weather severely limits fruit production and growth. Figs have been around so long, it makes sense that different strains would pop up. Condit mentioned Mosaic Virus on the plants he brought to California. Build a framework of wood, wire or bamboo around the fig, and pack mulch into the space between the frame and the tree. The brebas are way better. Brown Turkey and Celeste are both premier "gateway figs" in that they are responsible for a lot of people being involved with figs. Both taste good and sweet. It seems to me that the confusion is increased by the habit of referring to these figs just as “Brown Turkey”. New growth may need some time to get started. > >My problem is that I'm convinced, looking at fruit and >characteristics (this is a huge quantity of very young stock), that >we've been sent Celeste as Brown Turkey and vice-versa. I have gotten heavy breba production from one of my EBT (eastern?) My SBT run about 20g. We are in New England and have a very short season. Figs are dark purplish brown, with sweet red pulp. Starts ripening in late July. But it was plain from winter pictures of LaRadek grown in Czechoslovakia. Celeste figs are very sweet, with dark skins and reddish flesh. Bronze Paradiso (Dusan), Corragio (Bijar), German (Bass), LaRadek; MRE, and Sweet George. Celeste is called "Little Sugar Fig" but mine isn't "little" (compared to Dakota) and this year the Brown Turkey is sweeter. You can also grow and overwinter figs in pots. 'Texas Everbearing' (aka 'Brown Turkey', 'Ramsey', 'Everbearing'), while not quite as cold hardy as 'Celeste' , will produce a fair to good crop on new Celeste is a small fig but is the sweetest of the fig family. If you plant in a container to keep indoors, place your Brown Turkey Fig Tree by a large sunny window. When Does a Fig Tree Bear Fruit?. English Brown Turkey routinely handles cold winter temperature extremes and continues to fruit during the growing season. Figs can grow to about 15 feet tall and just as wide in Florida conditions. The celeste produces a small- to medium-sized fig in mid-June that is brown to purple in color and has a nearly seedless, amber pulp. If spring temperatures have been unseasonably warm, leaves may already be sprouting. Celeste Fig - Ficus carica; A brown fig, rich and sweet. So, I’m going with similar – but different – varieties. I got a few brebas, then a few main crop figs at the end of the season. They trunk under ground. I find the taste pleasant and sweet. I think we are missing something by not comparing how the same cultivar from the same source grows in different locations and in different years. I have a "black celeste" cutting on order. The Brown Turkey is a large fig with an "open" eye and not as sweet. They are very similar. Pruning is recommended only during the initial years when trees should be trained according to the use of fruit, such as a low crown for fresh-market figs. They will look pale and spindly, but a few days of sunshine will turn them a healthy green. Celeste (Blue Celeste, Celestial, and Little Brown Sugar) cultivar is probably the second most common fig in the southeastern United States, after Brown Turkey (Brunswick, Eastern Brown Turkey, Har­rison, Lees Perpetual, Ramsey, Texas Everbearing). Vancouver, WA Z 8b, soon to be Austin, TX Z 8b (Bring the heat!). I have always left them on, hoping they might ripen, and then taken them off during dormancy. Young fig trees require regular watering, but once established they become highly drought tolerant. Hardy Chicago is by far the most reliable variety for zone 5 areas. Second-crop figs, greenish to purple with pink pulp. I had a EBT under growing light until yesterday, I think it was already to far ahead towards dormancy to ripen its main crop. After the last frost in spring, uncover the fig. Celeste figs are a medium-sized fruit with smooth, light brown to violet colored skin. Medium-large, bell shaped, brownish-purplish skin, strawberry flesh. https://www.scribd.com/document/2485...es-A-Monograph, https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-h...bt-new-mystery, https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-h...with-id-please. Learn which plants thrive in your Hardiness Zone with our new interactive map! Although they display a surprising amount of cold tolerance, harsh weather severely limits fruit production and growth. Hardy Chicago will grow slowly at first. The California Brown Turkey is very common and most “Brown Turkey” trees for sale outside of the south are California Brown Turkey. I'm located in the Netherlands and growing European Brown Turkey, which here is known simply as Brown Turkey. Black mission figs are a deep blue-purple color on the outside with a pink flesh inside, are known for their sweetness, and often ooze a syrupy substance. I had consigned both my Bornholm trees to the cull area before Friday night's deep freeze (got down to 16F). in pots. Interesting. Growing: Brown Turkey, Ronde de Bordeaux, Hardy Chicago, Dottato, Michurinska-10. Bunyard and Thomas state that Malta ''is in all respects like Brown Turkey except in the shape of the fruits, which are shorter and of peg-top shape.'' I really think specifying. Cover with a layer of plastic, then one of burlap or canvas. New growth in the spring will often still produce a fruit crop, but for reliable fig production, protect the tree in winter. You're right - I've seen many variations within a variety too. On the other hand, no one who has seen California Brown Turkey and Celeste together would ever confuse them with each other. Insignificant flowers form inside a hollow receptacle in spring that, when mature, enlarges and becomes fleshy. BEST ANSWER: Steve, a fig novice here (Brown Turkey, Celeste, Chicago Hardy). She has more than 15 years of experience in the nursery industry and landscaping, and three years of horticulture at South Puget Sound Community College. This year i got my first RdB and was disappointment. When I went back to take cuttings before calling it a day, I had a change of heart and hauled the larger one into the shed. Was Bullard comparing Celeste and Southern brown turkey or Celeste and Brown Turkey? Instead, prune it back in winter so it stands about 8 feet tall. Once the roots are well established, yearly growth will accelerate considerably. What began as a lifelong gardening fixation turned into a career for Jean Lien. SBT is darker. We grow figs. This article will help with identifying sour figs and managing fig sour rot. One of the first signs your figs are becoming ripe is their change in color. Fig Pruning. I’m waiting to see what happens next year. This page was generated at 07:36 AM. Breba production is another characteristic that sets them apart, not to mention the size difference of typical fruit. Looks like it will be a pretty full crop. The figs in this composite of pictures (taken from the websites of 18 different European nurseries two days ago) were all referred to as 'Brown Turkey'. I’m also trying to re-program or re-set other late figs which if successful would allow a wider range of figs to be grown in short season areas. "Fruit and Nuts: A Comprehensive Guide to the Cultivation, Uses, and Health Benefits of Over 300 Plants"; Susanna Lyle; 2006, "Vegetables, Herbs and Fruit: An Illustrated Enclyclopedia"; Matthew Biggs; 2009. It is late, but has been ripening some main crop figs over the past two weeks which have been good despite the chilly fall weather. Yes you must be right its def a factor i hadnt considered. If that question is directed at me - they are in a very large greenhouse at this nursery. Even Condit confused Eastern (Southern) BT with the European BT in his Fig Varieties: A Monograph (, It should be emphasized also that the name “Brown Turkey” has been commonly used for. What category is it? an excerpt from an article by A.J. Bullard stated "It so happens that the two fig varieties most commonly grown east of the Mississippi are the two most confused..." He was comparing Celeste and. Fig trees (Ficus carica) grow well in areas that provide the eight hours of daily sun and moderate winters. You may only view thumbnails in this gallery. I rather have 100 “bad tasting” EBT, while waiting for other varieties to become productive. From Left to Right: Bayernfeige Violetta, MRE, Sweet George. It has a number of nicknames, a common one is "honey fig". It is amazing you had 1 of each to compare at same time since they have a hugely varying season. Since light is not an issue when the trees are dormant, a garage or a basement is a good storage spot. Good for potted culture, although it is our most dependable outdoor fig. Celeste or Malta fig trees typically keep their root systems more or less contained, larger trees such as the brown turkey fig trees have more of a tendency to dominate a space. Haha, thats the main crop that does no ripen in our zones. After the last frost in spring, uncover the fig. I don't want >to use any of this for propagation or sales until I've got them >straightened out...that is how these mistakes get continued in the >industry. Was just insinuating the SBT are a great jam fig since they produce most their smaller sugarbomb fruit over a shorter period. That is why I think Bullard was comparing CA Brown Turkey with Celeste, not SBT. I added a picture with breba. The European trees were imported several times but did not do well in California. Sure! Growing techniques and winter protection will allow certain fig trees to grow successfully in zone 5. My cali bts vary as i had some early but most are slow & hesitant to ripen here, WNC zone 7a at the intersection of Mt Pisgah & the Blue Ridge Parkway. Celeste figs are very sweet, with dark skins and reddish flesh. I had Bayernfeige Violetta, and after it was identified as European Brown Turkey, I realized I actually had several others: Black Fig #1. But I've never really given it much thought. I do not taste so mutch difference. So I took it out to make place for cutting season. Most of the above are very much affected –they grow very poorly. I guess I have at least one of each group. This year after heavy pruning it produced a heavy breba crop and then the main crop stalled – only two ripened. Brown Turkey figs work well in salads, where their lighter sweetness is a welcome contrast, or in desserts where an additional sweetener will be used. It's its own thing - a very reliable light brown sugar fig here in the PNW. You buy a EBT for its breba crop. A prolonged episode of freezing temperatures can cause the entire plant to die. Figs often have a first (breba) crop that may be mediocre depending on weather/late frost, but often a poor breba will be "backed up" by a second generation bumper crop. A couple of weeks back etowah posted an inquiry about red eye in Brown Turkey figs, and there were no clear answers. (Neither - Hanc’s EBT isn’t a Brown Turkey at all - but Hanc Matheis, Left Hanc’s EBT, Right Eastern (Southern) Brown Turkey, So really knowledgeable fig folk were flummoxed. It becomes an edible fruit, 4 in. Another unexpected wrinkle was that these figs are grown for the breba crop in Europe rather than the main crop. For the first few years, shelter fig trees. A post from a European fig grower venting about a scam by a European nursery brought me to the realization that they were here – just under the radar. In every hobby there are elitists that believe that if it isn't the "Best", or the most sought then it is of a lower or lesser class, to which I say "Male Bovine Scat"! Celeste figs have a sweet, caramel-like flavor and are … Its very sweet and good tasting. Hardy Chicago figs are rather small but very sweet, and the harvest is usually large. The poster was upset that they'd been able to restrict it as it was “just Brown Turkey”. Alice: St. Louis, MO zone 6b, new at figs. I’m trying this technique on Gene’s Paradiso and took off close to 200 figs about a month ago. Good quality. There are three types of Brown Turkey: California Brown Turkey, European (English) Brown Turkey, and Eastern (Southern) Brown Turkey. EBT – Eastern BT or European BT? They were also maybe a bit smaller. Since light is not an issue when the trees are dormant, a garage or a basement is a good storage spot. Move the pots indoors with the on-set of cold weather to a cool, sheltered place. They have a classic fig shape with a slender stem, tapering neck, and squat bottom. An excellent smaller fig with purple brown skin and light pink pulp. That was a huge surprise. Yes, fig trees are easy to grow in north and central Florida, they can also be grown in south Florida but may not produce as much fruit. Often if virus laden figs can be pushed hard enough, they “out-grow” the worst of the virus symptoms. - from the Bullard article New growth in the spring will often still produce a fruit crop, but for reliable fig production, protect the tree in winter. I hope this helps dispel some of the confusion over “Brown Turkeys”. Here they are clockwise from upper left: California Brown Turkey, European (English) Brown Turkey, and Eastern (Southern) Brown Turkey, As you can see they are very different. Brown Turkey Figs also prefer well-drained soil, though they are adaptable to a number of different soil types. Planting: Plant your Brown Turkey Fig in an area that receives full to partial sunlight (4 to 8 hours of sun daily). Luckily, there are some easy and effective ways to avoid the problem. Here on the forum I read Brown Turkey is one of the worst tasting figs and RdB is much better tasting. Young, immature and unripe figs tend to be small and green in hue. Read the Anyone growing figs besides Brown Turkey and Celeste? Radium Springs, NM. These are okay. If Eastern Brown Turkey is similar to SBT, why do we still call it EBT because it is easy to mix up with the European Brown Turkey, which is usually called EBT? If we grow the EBT for breba, does it mean we remove all the figlets of the main crop as soon as they emerge? Has produced as many as 100 pints of figs in one season. I’d tried for years to find a source for European (English) Brown Turkey without any luck. These trees are about 3-4 years old now and are just producing their first breba crop. Brown Turkey and Celeste. Sight Go by the color. Greenish brown: Two crops: Small: Good: Brown Turkey: Light with large, purple figs. Maybe that is the same as SBT? and there’s some fresh pineapple and several people are saying how good it is when it’s pretty darned bland and I’m thinking obviously they have never had a ripe pineapple before. This loss of knowledge is distressing - we had to re-learn every generation. I have Bornholm (aka Bornholm's Diamond, aka Nexoe) which is an European Brown Turkey. Glad its good! I believe the Brown Turkey is more popular fig than the Celeste. Figs- brown turkey, celeste, and chicago hardy Figs - gallon sized plants $15 each larger $25 and $35 each Kiwi male and female (1 male to 6 female) strong vine plants needs arbor to grow on. It took years to figure them out. Some beauties miss the mark. Halligan- Here's a previous post on Hanc's EBT: I have a Vern’s BT . Overwintering figs will grow easier as the trees age and develop more cold tolerance. It's a small fig. Common Figs are self-fertile and there are many, many varieties varying in taste color and growth habit. $15 each and $25 each Manfredia $15 to $35 each PALM sabal minor is native to Oklahoma, therefore, winter hardy. The underside of the fruit has a very small, tightly closed hole or “eye” which prevents fruit rot from bugs and moisture entering the fruit. My (English) Brown Turkey from Netherlands. Bullard and other experienced growers in the south thought there were enough important differences between Celeste and Southern Brown Turkey to consider them different varieties even though there are many similarities. And you’re right – you pretty much can’t tell Celeste and Southern Brown Turkey apart. Celeste trees were undamaged by freezes that leveled Southern Brown Turkey trees to the roots. What makes this strange is that European BTs are probably the most commonly grown fig in northern Europe – it’s everywhere. Its enjoyable. long (10 cm), at first green, but purplish when ripe. Plan the perfect garden with our interactive tool →, National Arboretum: USDA Plant Hardiness Zones. After four to five years, you can leave the fig unprotected. So, I’d say that Celeste. I predict you are in zone 6 or above as you overwinter inside. My mothers only tree, a 20+ y/o tree is a EBT, I got mine from her so that makes it special to me. There has been some recent comments on the forums about the differences between Celeste and the Southern (or Southeastern) Brown Turkey. Vern's BT was "discovered" relatively recently by Vern Nelson of Portland, OR. Root constriction limits top growth, but promotes fruit formation. The english bts are late- breba split easily but main seem more sturdy & less prone to split given our dryer autumns here, even in smoky mtn daily fog. They are milder in flavor and less sweet than the Black Mission fig. Tie down securely to protect against high winds. Although the wood of Brown Turkey is not as cold hardy as that of Celeste, after a severe freeze, suckers will usually develop from the roots to form a new plant. It makes sense if it is the latter. Bullard in the Southern Fruit Fellowship newsletter in post # 9 of this thread : But most of the time the eye scales are identical. Well, I’ll go back and look at them again. Then we can alllearn to live with fact sbt is just a celeste variety. Talk about confusion. Mutch Dutch people like them. Noted for its cold-hardiness, Ficus carica 'Brown Turkey' (Fig) is a large deciduous shrub or small tree with a spreading crown clothed in bold, deeply lobed leaves. Lien began writing in 2009 for various websites. We know Celeste has the closed eye and brown turkey has opened eye. The second best time is now.”. Left Eastern (Southern) Brown Turkey, Right Celeste. Oddly enough, potted figs will bear heavier fruit crops than their in-ground counterparts. Had a few looking so good but were bland dry yuckiness. 1. Although the fig will sprout new shoots from the roots in spring, fruit is generally produced on 2-year-old growth. The SBT celeste varieties share harvest dates as “august bearing”. The southern growers were familiar with the European (English) BT, though it probably wasn’t widely grown because of the mosaic problems. Where does Texas Everbearing fit into all of this? I’ll report back what I find out. What makes Brown Turkey even more unusual for a temperate fig is the size of its fruit, which can measure up to 3 inches in diameter. It’s really odd, but the camera “sees” the difference when the naked eye does not. About how easy it is to confuse the two figs. Good luck and let us no what they say about it. There is a lot of confusion surrounding figs in general, but it’s especially thick around the “Brown Turkeys”. It had been in the mail for a weekend also, so that didnt help. I had been thinking about this topic for a little while already, so I thought that I would give the subject its own post. Novice fig grower in The Netherlands (Oceanic climate, Zone 7b). It’s interesting that after his European imports failed, Condit brought in European BTs from the south. One of the most important was differing hardiness. Hardy Chicago is by far the most reliable variety for zone 5 areas. But this Brown Turkey is more sweet as RdB. English Brown Turkey Fig English Brown Turkey routinely handles cold winter temperature extremes and continues to fruit during the growing season. It ripened its main a little later than "usual" when I left all the breba on. There’s a guy there who is supposed to know more about the fruiting trees/plants, he might know more. 5.00 each and non winter hardy plants various prices.Figs- brown turkey, celeste, and chicago har Even when an identifier is added – as in Hanc’s EBT – it can still be confusing. It was nowhere to be found in the US. 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